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    ralberto2001
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    Hey everyone! I am still working on Gilbert clock! Last I posted it was under topic mainspring. Well I started a new one because it seems like that one is getting long.

    Any way! I got the parts as clean as I could get them! Do you all think I should get a wire buffer on my lathe to them?
    Next question: I noticed that some pivots had been bushed.
    If I have to rebush those do I knock those bushings out and start over,or do I team out the bushings?
    Next Question: the winding arbor bushings, what kind of bushings are those? They look different!
    As far as the parts and plates, should I call that patina! LoL! :D

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    ralberto2001
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    Hey everyone ignore the picture with the main spring retaining rings in it.
    That was one of the dirty pictures. Some how it got in there.
    Thanks Richard.

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    bernie weishapl
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    Any way! I got the parts as clean as I could get them! Do you all think I should get a wire buffer on my lathe to them?

    I would say it came out well. I would never use a brass or any other brush on the plates unless you don’t care about the antique value.

    Next question: I noticed that some pivots had been bushed.
    If I have to rebush those do I knock those bushings out and start over,or do I team out the bushings?

    Next Question: the winding arbor bushings, what kind of bushings are those? They look different!

    Most times I just push the old ones out with new ones.

    As far as the parts and plates, should I call that patina! LoL! :D

    Yes patina is what I call it and head down the road.

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    chris mabbott
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    Richard, I know Bernie is going to laugh at this but maan , I would clean that up like a mirror buddy, it would take me a week though 8-)
    Whereas I wouldn’t use a wire wheel, but rather a brass polish or a compound, then I would use a liquid sealant, I think it’s called curators something or other, which retards the oxidation that is lovingly called patina 😆

    Brass was once called…. “Poor mans gold” because a high grade of brass can imitate the look of gold when it’s shiny.
    I perform this magic on brass/gilded pocket watch movements. The nice thing is that after a short time it will have the aged look again. Don’t pay much attention to me though, I have a condition known as shine disorder 😆

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    ralberto2001
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    Hey Bernie, thanks as usual for the advise!
    I would sure love it to hold it’s antique value for sure
    We’ll on to the next step,I do know that before I start examining the parts
    I have already seen gears with bent arbors, but it will be fun doing this all.
    Oh also, in the bottom picture there is a round pop on plate that
    goes on the front of the clock face and has numbers on it like a clock, what is that called
    and should I buy another because that would be seen on the face of clock?

    And Chris that really is funny! I actually had a dream about one day making a clock
    Gears and plates and all out of a mirror :D
    Anyway, thanks everyone, Richard.

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    gerene
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    @Ralberto2001 wrote:

    Hey Bernie, thanks as usual for the advise!
    I would sure love it to hold it’s antique value for sure
    We’ll on to the next step,I do know that before I start examining the parts
    I have already seen gears with bent arbors, but it will be fun doing this all.
    Oh also, in the bottom picture there is a round pop on plate that
    goes on the front of the clock face and has numbers on it like a clock, what is that called
    and should I buy another because that would be seen on the face of clock?

    And Chris that really is funny! I actually had a dream about one day making a clock
    Gears and plates and all out of a mirror :D
    Anyway, thanks everyone, Richard.

    I don’t know for sure because I am not familiar with this movement, but if that “pop on” part sits on the arbor for the hour hand it is most probably to set the alarm function. I would not get a new one if it is not broken but just clean it up very well and make it shine :).
    As for the question should all plates etc be shining, I also try to get them to look “new” but that does not add anything to the functioning of the movement, opinions vary on this matter. Maybe for real antiques (like a few hundred years old) it would be a different story, but I do not get those in my humble workshop very often :). Those mostly handmade movements require an in depth knowledge of restauration techniques. For the movements I work on, which are most of the time (semi) mass produced, I am with Chris and like to get them “as new” again. But then I do this as a hobby and do not try to make money with it, so time is not an issue.

    Jan

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    ralberto2001
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    Thank you! Jan for the advise. Richard

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