Hi. After spending many weeks wondering if I should buy a MSW. I finnaly purchased the type that Im told the B.H.I use in there School, Well I would sure be counting my fingers before I went home at night. This type of Winder appears to be qiute a challenge for the novice. Yes I hear you say you should have worn a glove. O.K. that said and my fingers are healing nicely now.Perhaps someone could advise me about maybe a Keystone or someother make. Cheers Clive, in Cornwall.