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    willofiam
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      Hey Jan, I forgot to mention that I also have Malcom Wilds book. You are right in saying that I have interest in this BUT I wonder if I am smart enough 🙄 I do believe that understanding or at least being familiar with the information will only benefit. Your posting the math and going thru it like you did, to me, is a good way to teach yourself, sort of like taking a exam, forcing you to really go thru it. At any rate, what I am thinking…..ooohhhh boy 🙄 is being self sufficient in repairs, producing a part or the whole timepiece, this is where we need to go, (especially if there is no other reference to have), yes I could buy all the cutters I need but then I would have to sell the milling machine to pay for the cutters, then what?

      Maybe Bob or Paul would buy us all a complete set of cycloidial cutters.

      O.K. here is the idea. using a shadow graph or a optical comparator, knowing the amount of magnification, I can take the measurements from Wilds charts and make a drawing of the tooth form. My old comparator has a magnification of 20, in theory I multiply all the measurements by 20 and make a drawing. Putting the drawing on the viewing screen and grind my tool, holding it on the table for magnification, I should be able to get my cutter pretty close…..Right…I have not tried it yet, maybe tonight.
      Once I figure out how I get these profiles the next dilemma is the process of making the cutter. For brass wheels a fly cutter (not too difficult), for steel pinions a multi tooth cutter (a bit more involved, probably like the 4 tooth cutter Wild has in his book). Have a great day, William

      #60634
      gerene
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        These cutters are indeed expensive and the complete set certainly is.
        I think that your approach should work, as far as I understand what your saying. I don’t have an optical comparator, (maybe I should have one) so I don’t know anything about them.
        As far as I know already, fly cutters may work for brass wheels but will not for steel pinions.
        But even if you can make the cutter the way you describe, wouldn’t you still need to calculate the diameter of the blank and the number of leaves for the pinion (if you don’t have the original)?
        Very curious on your success in making the cutter!

        Jan

        #60635
        gerene
        Participant

          After I had given up all hope to see the arbor again, it turned up in the mail today. Don’t know where it has been all that time but I am very happy that it finally arrived.
          Looks like Paul did an excellent job of repivoting!
          This allowed me to measure the original pinion and see how well my calculations were. The outer diameter of the pinion is 1.90 and I calculated 1.95. Not all that bad I think.

          Jan

          #60636
          bernie weishapl
          Participant

            Glad to see it arrived ok. It definitely puts a lot of stress on ones self when these things seem to be lost.

            #60637
            willofiam
            Moderator

              Hey Jan, thats great..yes, Paul does nice work….I still have not had the time to get going on these formulas, getting close though, looks like the end of the week 🙄 Have a great day, William

              #60638
              arutha
              Participant

                Thanks for the compliment William!
                Jan, I am so pleased it has turned up at last. I hate having to entrust stuff to any postal service.
                Paul :)

                #60639
                dulwich2410
                Participant

                  Hi Jan just seen on ebay 5 pinions for sale that look similar to yours item number 30147105384
                  hope this is helpful.

                  All the best

                  John

                  #60640
                  chris mabbott
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                    Great news Jan, just when your hopes sink to the bottom….. :D a lovely surprise turns up..

                    Must have been due to Xmas, I’ve also got two missing packages sent from the UK, both certified 🙄

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