Depends on what the rest of the plate has as far as oil cups cut or not, I would try and match what is there, Also look close at the oil cups, the cup is not a straight champher, it is a round cup. The reason is so that when the clock is in the vertical position the curved oil cup helps keep the oil in place. I use ball cutters but I do not have a source for you as I have had these for some time. William