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Thanks for your reply David. I do have some experience in clock restauration, but never worked on clocks with wooden parts. My question is more about this new element, what is different on a clock with a wooden frame and more specifically a Black Forest movement as opposed to a French or English clock with metal frames for instance. Thanks for the advice about rust remover, I use Horolex Rust Remover from the material house, also based on phosphoric acid but probably more expensive than the stuff found in woodworking supply houses. I will definitely look into that. It will probably be a different brand overhere in Europe.