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    thanks David, yes I do have a gauge (dozume?) I got in a recent watchmakers estate I bought, have not had the chance to use it yet. Also thinking of a way to hold a broken staff in place next to the new one I would make, using it as a reference to rough cut the new one. I have done that alot in the past with wood-turning but thats on a whole different scale, I know alot of diameter and length dimensions while making a balance staff can be made and checked by useing the balance / hairspring collet / roller table but other projects would require measuring. HEY Bob, I think we should have a section here we all put in our “stories” told to our wifes so we can have fresh ones each tool purchase. you could store them and we could purchase the stories from you on a as needed basis, I would pay $50.00 for a good one, William