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    Thanks to all for the input. I’ve realized that taking short cuts is a gamble.We are all looking for an easier way but that is not necessarily the right way. Better to do it right the first time, I’ve been just lucky with removing springs by hand and installing with a winder and most likely warped them also, not to mention it is unsafe. I’m going to use a ollie baker winder from now on. Thanks again to all. Fred