hope this works, I did notice how on alot of the gothic style clocks had the paper??? face goes to the top and is not round, I also noticed the winding hole, in your experiance is the winding hole in an assortment of places??? does it matter if it is a one day, 8day, 30 day ???? obviously depending on works and manufacturer, I will have to look at that closer now Good luck, p,s, we should make sure we dont bid against each other on ebay 
William
